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2010-02-06 18:18

MPUMALANGA

Dr Ope Oduntan
 
“People who voted him into power knew that he had multiple wives. It is not a problem if he is practising his culture. If you’re talking about him being a role model for the youth then he must stop marrying more women. But, if you’re referring to him enjoying himself and his wives having no problem, I won’t ask him to stop.”

                                                                                Siva Ramsamy

 

“The damage is done already, there is nothing you can do about it. These are two different things, this man is a good president if you over look all that.”


                                                                                      Ntombi Shabangu

 

“It is not a private matter, he is the president of the country he should lead by example. He is embarrasing blacks, white people are already talking. Helen Zille has already said something.”

 Bulelwa Sanela

“He is not representing us well. He must stop marrying more women. He is using culture as an excuse, he is just like Tiger Woods.


Sonia Antonio

 

“He proved he didn’t know much about the disease with his stupid comments about the shower. In countries like the US they would have tried to impeach him.”


    Marthinus Pelzer

 
“If culture is used as an excuse to sleep around then it is a problem. It’s quite common these days to have children out of wedlock, but once you’re married you shouldn’t be sleeping around.”

 
Curious Matsana

 

“It’s his culture. He is the king and therefore must have many wives. But, he must use a condom because unprotected sex is not right.”

 
Phukubje Moshwaneng
 

 “What we don’t know is whether Zuma knew the status of all his women before sleeping with them.”

 
Sthembile Simelani

 
“Guys are already cheating without condoms. At least he’s doing it openly. Polygamy is not against the law and with all the love from all his women, we will at least have a happy president.”

 

 

FREE STATE

 
Pule Radimo

 
“According to African tradition, we are allowed to marry 20 women as long as you can maintain them. As long as Zuma can still do it and afford, he should continue. But sleeping around without a condom is not right.”


Thabo Senyaka from Bloemfontein
 

“He has to stop taking more women because more people will want to be like him and also want more partners. We had (former president Thabo) Mbeki and (Nelson) Mandela and there were no such things. Look at (Barak) Obama, he does not have scandals.”

 
Marriam Dimpane, a pensioner
 
“This is not a black culture. What is he teaching the nation? What he is doing is wrong. Young people please use condoms when having sex.”
 


Patricia Mapheelle, a single mother of four

 
“Men no longer care about women because of polygamy. The president is breaking up homes. My children are suffereing because their father has left them to live with another woman.”

 Phakiso Tshoho from Tweespruit

 
“What is Zuma teaching the nation? We will end up doing this polygamy) because he is doing it. Young people must use condoms during sexual intercourse.

 
Mothobi Mashie – a taxi driver

 
“We are poor, he is not looking at us, but his women. We want better health and roads, not many women. We want him to lead by example. It was corruption and now many wives?”

 
Nokhontoni Mokheledi

 
“This is not culture; he is just being silly. This is nonsense because there are condoms and things like family planning. Young people are following his example.”

 Bernhardt Beetge

 
“It is totally unacceptable that every time he put his foot wrong everyone attacks him. However, if Zuma’s private life continues to be scandalous, it could harm the presidency.”

 
Neo Motete (20) a hawker
 

“It is their culture to marry many women. We must leave him alone. It is wrong to have unprotected sex. You must have sex when you are married and responsible.”

 
Jenna Nelson, student at UFS
 

“We pay higher taxes to support his kids. Polygamy is wrong.”

 

EASTERN CAPE
 

Siya Abrahams (23) , Port Elizabeth

 
“Zuma should be showing that he uses condoms. There’s too much HIV/Aids in South Africa yet he’s not setting a good example. Polygamy is unacceptable and even worse now that there is “umakhwapheni” (an adulterous relationship) on the side.”

 
Postdam West resident Sindiswa Sibulali (55)

 
 “He is using taxpayers’ money to support his wives.”

 
Vick Blayi (21), East London

 
“What will future leaders learn from him. All that’s important to him is impregnating people’s children.”

 
Andisiwe Petane, Middledrift Eastern Cape

 
“He’s busy with his wives and not keeping his election promises. Why doesn’t he stop?”
 

Nkqonkqweni village resident Nolisolethu Jack (45)

 
“Young men will forever want to get married but I’ll never be in a polygamous relationship. Zuma is scandal-prone and is using funds that could develop poor areas to appease his wives.”

 Vuyisile Shweni (65), Mdantsane

 
“He should be satisfied with his wives because he’s the president. What are other nations saying about our president? He should consider having a vasectomy.”

 
Luvuyo Ngqavu (31), Postdam

 
“Residents of the Postdam West informal settlement draw water from a single communal tap while Zuma’s wives and kids take never-ending baths.”

 Phumlani Libata (18), Colesberg, Northern Cape

 
“Zuma is wrong to have unprotected sex outside his marriages. He doesn’t even know Sonono Khoza’s HIV status.”

 
Bahle Ntoyakhe (20), East London

 
“Zuma must apologise to the nation for having unprotected sex out of wedlock. We’re fighting HIV/Aids but he goes the opposite direction by not practising what he preaches.”

 
Mthuthuzeli Nogwebu, Mdantsane, East London

 
 “Things are going wrong due to Africans adopting other people’s culture. Zuma has admitted that he’s able to satisfy his wives.”

 
East London fisherman and pensioner Brian Lottering (60

 
“I’m not saying polygamy is right or wrong because it’s from the bible days. What’s wrong now?”

 Themba Magwaza (44)

 
“He will break (biblical king) Solomon’s record easily. I think it’s enough now, he must stop. His kids will go hungry one day if he continues.The other problem will be with younger wives because they have different needs physically and materially. They will end up cheating on him.”
 

Vele Nduli ( 48-year-old polygamist)

 
“Zuma is not wrong to grow his house. It is only wrong when you deny that you have wronged another family (by impregnating its daughter and not acknowledging the baby). So I see nothing wrong with what he has done. A man doesn’t grow old and he can continue to impregnate women outside marriage even if he has 15 wives. However, he has made a mistake. I agree with those who criticize him for not using a condom. This issue should have been discussed by the chiefs and the izinduna and should not have been publicized. This way they are robbing him of his dignity. He maybe wrong, but he should not have been treated this way.”

 
Frans Nduli (56)

 
“I don’t see anything wrong because he admitted that the child is his. In Zulu culture this is acceptable as long as you admit the child is yours and you pay damages. At least he is not destroying his family. He is bringing everyone together. It is better than having kids scattered all over the place.”

 

Anonymous, 46 and polygamous (anonymous because she does not have her husband’s permission to talk)

 
“Had I known, I would not have married into isithembu (polygamous family). Affairs are not acceptable, but you cannot stop the men. As a woman you are not supposed to have an affair. Why must a man have secret affairs? If a woman does she will be called isifebe (slut) but if a man does she will be called isoka (a player). What he did was not in line with what he teaches.”


NKANDLA

 Mziyanda Sikhakhane (husband of 3 and father of 22 from rural Nkandla)

 
“I think what he did disagrees with Zulu culture. But he will take care of the

child. People must understand that message (of condoms) because the disease affects everyone. They will be making a big mistake if they don’t want to understand it.”

 A local school teacher who asked not to be named

 
“Two wives were okay. Having more than two is too much. Maybe he should stop now.”

 
Thami Sosibo (29)

 
“Having a child out of wedlock is a man’s life. It’s something you can’t avoid if you are a man. You can say you will only have one partner, but when you get a chance (to cheat) you will take advantage of it. Zuma’s a president but he is also a man. Because he has power and gets things done easily, he also gets tempted (by women).”

 
Themba Magwaza (44)

 
 “Zuma will break (biblical king) Solomon’s record easily. I think it’s enough now, he must stop. His kids will go hungry one day if he continues. The other problem will be with younger wives because they have different needs physically and materially. They will end up cheating on him.”

  WESTERN CAPE
 
Nicolas Dray, 25, sales consultant


 
“Having unprotected sex and a child out of wedlock confuse me, because he is always talking about young people needing to practise safe sex. It is not for me to judge him, but he is not leading by example…he should practise what he preaches because he is the father of the nation.

 
Thandeka Nzuza, 26, waiter

 
“We cannot judge him, but he must just be responsible and make sure all his children and wives are taken care of.

 
Moa Marlous, 49, sales assistant

 
“Having unprotected sex is a disgrace for the country. He goes to conferences preaching to people to have one partner and practise safe sex, but he does the opposite.”

 
Wouter Hugo, 36, restaurant manager

 
“Set an example for the youth instead of sleeping around without protection. He (said during World Aids Day) that people must practise safe sex - and now he does the opposite. What should we do?”

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Lydia Maseko, 50, provincial government official

 
“Every household is affected by HIV/Aids and the president must do things right and give us a clear message on how to tackle the killer disease. Unprotected sex brings unwanted children.

Comment on this story


sipho mlalatzi 2/6/2010 6:50:08 PM
He is an utter embarrassment to all black people. The other racial groups now think that all blacks practice this behaviour of his.He was voted in as the number one citizen and continues to do whatever he does. He ingages in polygamy, unprotected sex with people he knows have AIDS, extra marital unprotected sex, bearing illegitimate children, sex with women about 30 years younger then him, he has had 20 children and 5 wives so far with a few more on the way. The media knows about this. Apparently there are many more of his illegitimate kids running around. You have to ask "we got it wrong, how do we get rid of him today?"
mxolisi Masilela 2/6/2010 9:27:34 PM
the ANC executives should recall the president. He is not fit to occupy the highest office in the country. After that, he can go and sleep around as he wishes. In the process, he put the lives of all the women he's bedding at risk, as it's clear, he doesn't condomise. Or maybe, he has a cure for AIDS and STIs, like taking a shower after sex.
LL PONN 2/6/2010 11:36:52 PM
Arabs and Africans are inherently polygamous therefore Europeans have to accept that situation if not they're free to emigrate back. Why are you concentrating Mr Zuma and not the women who accept his proposals.
Josias Mokoena 2/7/2010 3:54:04 AM
I think the nation must pray for our president. I don't think a normal person can disgrace the country like this. This is the person who deserve to be re-called.
THULANI 2/7/2010 8:04:52 AM
What the President has done to Khoza's family is good. Khoza supported him when Khwezi's family was facing difficulties. Who knows, maybe the next one is Vavi's child.
Vusi Lukhele 2/7/2010 8:49:28 AM
Atleast it's not like he's doing fraud like prevouis charges. How many women and men are doing it and it is not registered. Please do not compared water oil, Mbeki and Zuma klaar.
Godfrey Mosuwe 2/7/2010 10:17:44 AM
I am amazed at the hypocrisy of my fellow citizens! What Zuma did to the Khoza family is despicable beyond words, but we cannot pretend that we are living in an age where marriage has any sanctity. I mean Michael Jackson got married, Khanyi Mbau was married...and even gays wanna get married!! Why are we alarmed that marriage has lost it's currency? One can get married for money, sire a poverty-hedging baby with the right millionaire fool then a few months later get divorced on pre-meditated terms!! We are encouraged to worship Mormon in this day and age. After all, is that not the reason gays have advanced in their hijacking of this Godly institution - getting financial benefits afforded straight couples?! Zuma is a disgrace for an entirely different reason than the fact that he behaves like a typical darkie male on this, our African tip! How Zuma justifies sleeping with friend's daughters and embodying the constitution and ideals of our country is purely discombobulating!! He's gonna be offered a fat Chinese magosha someday and he'll sell the whole of Mamelodi to China in exchange, I tell you!! A man with no self-discipline is working hard at his own demise and engendering his own poverty!! May God save us all from this madness!!
billy 2/7/2010 10:36:03 AM
With the spread of HIV/AIDS, I just don't understand how our presedent can just go out there and have sex without a condom, let alone even more, out of wedlock. Amashamed SouthAfrican
KHETHOMTHANDAYO SAFANSINI 2/7/2010 10:41:38 AM
THE OBSESSION With ZUMA's INFEDILITY Has Got To Do With The THEME AND DILEMMA OF IMPERFECT PEOPLE Trying To Apply The LAWS OF PERFECT MORALITY! In An Imperfect World We Must Learn To Live With Imperfection, Tampering Justice With Mercy And Being Tolerant OF The Faults Of Others, Knowing That We OFTEN HAVE THE SAME FAULTS OURSELVES!Shakespeare's Plays - MEASURE FOR MEASURE - The Words Of The Good Duke Near The End: 'They Say best Men Moulded Out Of Faults, And the Most Become Much More The Better For Being A Little Bad.'Our Spurious Convictions And Persuasion of SELF - RIGHTEOUSNESS Make Us Think That Our Wickedness Have Betterness Than Other People's Wickedness! Regards, From JOHANNESBURG!
stephen tawana 2/7/2010 10:58:37 AM
I'm in Botswana my name is Tawana. I think Mr Zuma needs serours counseling to change his behaviour. South Africa is the power house in our regin so this is disgusting
anonymous 2/7/2010 11:00:23 AM
When is his term coming to an end? We are tired of his inconsistency.
Norah Ngobeni 2/7/2010 11:02:51 AM
I am not suprised at what JZ did. This is exactly what I was telling people around me during the elections, that JZ even though he was popular, was not fit to be President, based on the assessment I made from the Shaik trial, when his lack of control of his financial and personal life were being discussed, it showed a man with little integrity, and it brought a question that if a man cannot control his personal finances, how can he control a nation? Also, if a man is incappble of controlling his sexual urges, as we saw during his rape trial, how can he control or run a nation? I have been asking myself these questions since he was elected in Polokwane and it seems that I might have been right. Contrary to what his supporters say that you can separate his personal life from his public life, I think they are inseparable. The man does not have emotional insight into his personal life and does not seem to understand how his behaviour influences other people or the nation. I think he should seek professional counselling.
Andre Arendse 2/7/2010 11:20:23 AM
It is disgusting, how can we have respect for such a person who must control the country but can NOT CONTROL HIMSELF? You are a disgrace for the rainbow nation. The correct thing would have been to step down as president. I wonder when does he have time to concentrate on the country and to govern it. No wonder he always looks fast asleep, for sure he does not get enough rest at night time. Sorry, in my eyes you are a loser and making all women look like a cheap commodity, I will never in my life take anything you say seriously in future. Something else, why must we pay for 20 children as tax payers if you can not control yourself and then hides behind your so called culture, it is not culture it is lust !!!!
Zanoxolo Ntamo 2/7/2010 12:33:43 PM
Which codified moral principles do the ANC and their President subscribe to!!? What kind of message is this behaviour sending to the young adults. We already have enormous difficulties with their bad behaviour. Is this the kind of society that the ANC is leading South Africa to? The worst thing is that, we can now shout & complain but we voted this man into this President position.This man must stand down before another scandal.
Michael 2/7/2010 1:52:46 PM
This is neither a polygamy nor a cultural issue. Our "so called" president has a peculiar sexual appetite. He even risked his life and endagered his women's by having unprotected sex with an HIV positive woman. He does not walk the talk, and should humbly refrain from making statements about safe sex and HIV/AIDS. He is a disgrace not only to the SA nation, but the entire world. He lacks understanding and knowledge on the subject and therefore is unqualified.
Idille Borchers 2/7/2010 3:20:15 PM
Zuma is defiling the office of the President. When does he have time to consider the problems of the country and how to solve them? He should step down and the office should go to a person with more integrity. If such can be found in this morally bankrupt country
bertimaeus 2/7/2010 9:14:12 PM
Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge." God's 'opinion', not mine.
hilfred 2/7/2010 9:53:04 PM
I teach my daughter what a good father should be like and my son how to be a good father one day. For that you have to be with them every day of their young lives. How does Zuma teach his children and when does he make time for 20 children. Every day while working in prison I see the results of of broken homes where the father was a abcent figure. Will this be the future of these 20 children too? Take control of yourself mister president!!
Val 2/8/2010 9:04:22 AM
If every eligalbe person took 5 partners and had 20 or 30 children, SA would be in a total shambles within a short space of time. IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? Thoughts precede action, if there is no self control or self disapline in the thoughts there will be on self control in the action. IS THAT THE EXAMPLE WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW? Just wondering.
Sisanda George 2/8/2010 12:24:27 PM
Hayikhona Msholozi usiphoxile ngoku, lonto usenza amayilo. Ngenene liyinyani elithi awenzanga njengomzekelo wenkokheli xa uzakulala umithise intombi ngaphandle emtshatweni, umntana wesihlobo sakho nakhona. Uthini ngabafazi aba baninzi sowubatshatile, isifo se Aisds sona? Hayi Nxamalala ngekhe tu. Singaphela tu isizwe,odade bethu kunye nabantwana bethu ngoba ingathi usabheka pha nalomkhuba.
Lwando Runeyi 2/8/2010 6:40:28 PM
It is not acceptable for a president of a multi-cultural nation to practise polygamy. Most people are arrogant when we criticise other cultures.I think tolerance is a good thing, however, we should not tolerate everything like a president who should be leading by example practices polygamy.
lesego 2/9/2010 10:41:38 AM
Zuma is wrong and he needs to be stopped. Otherwise men will continue to disrespect women and think it is okay to do so. If this is a democratic country, Zuma must step down because he broke too many rules and we ,as citizens of this country, say enough is enough . The ANC is wrong this time around.
Cheryl Tywabi 2/9/2010 1:53:42 PM
What he has done is wrong. But like everyone says, all South African men do it and get away with it, most of them are not role models nor are they celebrities. For a president to lose so much respect it is a big NO. He must try to be discreet the next time because, I believe that he won't stop. Use a condom please!
Mbulelo Ningiza 2/9/2010 3:05:06 PM
I think our President needs a break from dancing around alone. He must always be with one of the 4 present wives every where he goes to avoid his short comings in Public. That would help him and save the reputation of our beautiful country.
Henriette 2/10/2010 10:35:45 AM
Everybody claims this is a "cultural" thing. Zuma is a Zulu and so is Mangosuthu Buthelezi who is a very cultured person and has been married to ONE wife for many years. This is a man of utmost integrity and JZ can learn from his example.
Zola 2/12/2010 11:27:39 AM
It's funny how people are busy talking about Zuma not leading by example, are they leading by example? what if Zuma's wives are fine with the situation? Are these people in Zuma's household. What I like about Zuma is that, in all the scandals that he has, he takes all of them head on. What about the good job he is doing for the country, or is that over looked because he has a baby out of wedlock? How many people have babies out of wedlock? What kind of massage are they sending to their kids?
Anonymous 2/14/2010 10:24:44 AM
Please print all the comments and make sure Zuma's office and his spin doctors receive them. This will bring perspective to what citizens think and feel about the president.
Benge 2/28/2010 3:46:28 PM
I think JZ must do himself a noble thing and step down from the presidency. It was so disguisting and immoral as the head of state to go around making babies. South Africa is not a monarch country. Perhaps he wants to challenge our neighbours "Swazis". He can resigned the presidency and retired to Nkandla and make as many children as he want.
Raymond Mona 3/3/2010 2:11:06 PM
My fellow South Africans, JZ is still the President of the country, we elected him, knowing he's a good man when coming to the political situation of this country and he's doing things the right way in tems of governing this country. JZ needs that respect as a head of the country, people are calling him names and that's wrong, "Zip it" what's that? This man needs the respect he deserve as our leader. The media is also playing a big role in disrespecting the President. JZ's personal issues should not be published in  the media, because when people know very well they will appear on TV they talk anything that can please their friends and that's not suiting the Presindent's respect. To be honest he's still the best man that can lead this country for the next years to come. My advice to the President is' be strong and lead this country, let the media stay away from you on your person issues, because some of them are your enemies and they're getting paid to publish wrong things about you, so be strong at all times.
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